Liminal Podcast

Desert Island Soreen

May 25, 2020 Gordon Hall and Joe Pearson Season 1 Episode 6
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Liminal Podcast
Desert Island Soreen
May 25, 2020 Season 1 Episode 6
Gordon Hall and Joe Pearson

It’s the Liminal Podcast’s take on Desert Island Discs!

Show Notes

Check out this episode on YouTube!
Leicester Monopoly
National Trust Monopoly
Mowgli Street Food
The Silk Roads: A New History of the World - Peter Frankopan
The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse - Charlie Mackesy
This (Becoming Free) - Michael Gungor
The Liturgists Podcast
You Made it Weird - Pete Holmes
Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness
Joe Rogan’s move to Spotify

Liminal Podcast is about dealing with change, be that through humour, self-care, science, or spirituality. Join Joe and Gordon as they laugh and ponder, as well as speak to experts and friends, trying to figure out how to deal with life when the rug has been pulled from under your feet.

We’d love to hear from you! If you want to get in touch click here.

Liminal Podcast couldn’t happen without the support of our team, as always massive thank you to Harry for writing the theme music, Haley for creating our logo and Leah for everything she does behind the scenes. Thank you to everyone who rates and reviews the show, we really appreciate it.

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Show Notes Transcript

It’s the Liminal Podcast’s take on Desert Island Discs!

Show Notes

Check out this episode on YouTube!
Leicester Monopoly
National Trust Monopoly
Mowgli Street Food
The Silk Roads: A New History of the World - Peter Frankopan
The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse - Charlie Mackesy
This (Becoming Free) - Michael Gungor
The Liturgists Podcast
You Made it Weird - Pete Holmes
Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness
Joe Rogan’s move to Spotify

Liminal Podcast is about dealing with change, be that through humour, self-care, science, or spirituality. Join Joe and Gordon as they laugh and ponder, as well as speak to experts and friends, trying to figure out how to deal with life when the rug has been pulled from under your feet.

We’d love to hear from you! If you want to get in touch click here.

Liminal Podcast couldn’t happen without the support of our team, as always massive thank you to Harry for writing the theme music, Haley for creating our logo and Leah for everything she does behind the scenes. Thank you to everyone who rates and reviews the show, we really appreciate it.

Subscribe to Liminal Podcast

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Gordon Hall :

Welcome to Episode Six of Liminal podcast. My name is Gordon, how you doing today Jay?

Joe Pearson :

I'm very well basking in the summer weather in embrace.

Gordon Hall :

I know the weather has been absolutely gorgeous the last week if you've been up too much if you've been out and enjoying the weather go

Joe Pearson :

a little bit a little bit. I'm a bit of a hermit. I don't always like going out, but I plucked up the courage at a couple of bite rise. And I came back drenched in sweat, because it was so hot.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, it was my Nan's birthday on Sunday, as we mentioned last episode, and we did a big group zoom call to say happy birthday to her. And while we were doing it, I was just on a walk around but my local area I actually saw a fire engine go full power up to a house that had a load of smoke coming out of the garden. All of the firemen get out of the van to only find out that it was someone's bonfire that had been, like reported by a neighbour. And it was just like, all of this was going on while we were on the call to my nan. So I had to have my call on mute and pretend that I was listening to the call when actually I was more interested in this fire engine. So sorry now and I might have missed some of your birthday call.

Joe Pearson :

Apologies for that. I'll be honest, she probably didn't notice. No, she probably didn't. But she listens to the podcast so she will have found out now another fire related story as well as your previous one. All happening on video cause

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, this time I was the one who was

Joe Pearson :

near the fire. Where the fire I was. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker :

I mean, I am on fire. Let's face it. smoking hot.

Gordon Hall :

Are you okay there Joe? It sounds like you've got some a Corona or something. tickling Oh yeah, just

Joe Pearson :

could be COVID or not. Local books,

Gordon Hall :

social shame that you got it just after your birthday. How was that? By the way?

Joe Pearson :

My birthday was good. It was weird. It was really weird to be locked down. But we made the most of it got drunk and played Monopoly and got some food in them and did pretty much as much as we could really, but it was good. It was 24 I'm a little bit older. It's whatever.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, nice. So what version of Monopoly were you playing?

Joe Pearson :

This is very interesting. So my mom bought this for my birthday. We already had monopoly here. We had a Simpsons one and like an American one. Yeah. mom bought me, Lester. monopoly. Amazing. What's it like? It was so bad that it was good, very familiar. Kind of some of the things are really familiar, but a lot of the stuff was sponsored. It was a couple of hairdressers that clearly paid a few quid to be on the board. Yeah. And pretty much every other community chefs that we got. It would come up. Really like you spotted a celebrity in this hairdresser that none of us have ever heard of. Yeah, for over 20 years. But yeah, that was good. That was good. Yeah, a long time. Yeah. cuz it was for people. Yeah, it was a long game in monopoly. It was about three or four hours. I've got the best version of Monopoly. I think I've got National Trust monopoly, I think is the coolest version that they do. National Trust monopoly. Yeah.

Gordon Hall :

Explain National Trust monopoly to me. Well, essentially, it's just like any other monopoly except instead of having Park Lane and Mayfair and old Kent road, you've got lime Park and no Park and Chartwell and other places like that. So it's National Trust properties, basically. quite cute.

Joe Pearson :

To me. It sounds like something that wasn't aimed at your demographic Gordon, maybe if someone have an older persuasion, perhaps.

Gordon Hall :

No idea what you're talking about. National Trust is the coolest club to be part of, you know, remember,

Joe Pearson :

I'm not a National Trust member. Actually, no. I'll put hold my hands up and say that I've been in a couple of parks but that didn't extend to a membership. Anyway, Gordon, what is it We're talking about today.

Gordon Hall :

Last week we were on holiday. Were we not?

Joe Pearson :

We were on holiday. Yeah. around the world.

Gordon Hall :

Absolutely. And you know, after we recorded last week's episode actually had a bit of a weird dream. We were on a plane coming back from our holiday and it crashed onto a desert island and started thinking about what would I want to have with me on this desert island if I was stranded and stuff like that. So I thought it would be an interesting thing for us to talk about on this episode, a kind of Desert Island Discs if you like.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, so we're going to borrow the theme from that. We're going to expand it slightly. Now we've made a bit of a scenario if you want to briefly explain what that is.

Gordon Hall :

Yes, so on the way back from our holiday from last week, Joe, unfortunately, we had a bit of an accident in the plane and we crashed landed on a desert island. And so the only people that survived this crash were you and me and the people that were sitting next to the foods that we'd be eating so the same meal every like you know how when you're on a plane, and EasyJet has one meal and one snack that Everyone godless of their choice and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Basically that so you pick the mail that you're going to be having while you're stranded. You pick a snack, and then some entertainment. So maybe three books, three movies or tv shows three podcasts and three albums. Sound good? Yeah. Sounds good to me. Amazing. So, Joe, who would you pick to get stranded on a desert island with?

Joe Pearson :

I had a quite a big thing about it. And there's a couple of names that kept popping up. Yeah. And I eventually decided on one and that is going to be the man the one the only Ricky Jabez. Okay, interesting.

Gordon Hall :

Do you went for like a celebrity and go for like a close family member or you girlfriend or anything like that

Joe Pearson :

was that? You put me in a bit of a hole there. I spend a lot of time with those people, but there's Island. Okay, I'm gonna want someone who has got a lot of energy and Ricky Jabez has got a tonne of energy and stories. Yeah, and maybe thing is probably a mindset, which would definitely get us through. Or he might just crack and then just swim away and leave us either way, it's going to be entertaining.

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, he does

Joe Pearson :

also link into some of the other things, but I'll get to that later. Okay, so you're gonna go for

Gordon Hall :

now I feel silly because I I chose someone that's a friend of mine. And I thought long and hard because I didn't even think didn't even cross my mind to pick a celebrity. So I was thinking about different friends and I'll do I pick this person do I pick this person? I've been friends with this person for like, a long time, but I might be closer with this person. I was racking my head for ages. But in the end, I decided to go for my friend Emma. Emma's one of my oldest friends, and we've been through a lot together. And that's actually we used to be married. I think he briefly told me this before from my memory. I don't think you were actually actually married, if that makes sense. Well, it was a pretty serious ceremony that was officiated and now we're guests and all of that, but we We're about four, four or five at a time. So maybe it wasn't completely legal. We were in reception at school. And a few years ago actually, when we remembered about it on a night out, we drew up the divorce contracts and signed up both so we're not married anymore. But I thought it would be a nice little trip to go with my my oldest friend, my ex wife be stuck on a desert island with Emma. So yeah, Mr. If you're listening.

Joe Pearson :

Let's go at your backs. Yeah, I don't think many, many men or women would pick an ex partner. I really not well, it was not where you want to be with them.

Gordon Hall :

It was 22 years ago, Joe we've we've moved on where we're a lot more mature now. And we're actually very good friends because of it. I think the the marriage if anything has strengthened our friendship.

Joe Pearson :

So we have picked two very different people we have Yeah, and I'll tell you why I picked a celebrity is also to not upset all the people around me. So yeah, celebrity. No one's gonna get jealous. Why did you pick mom? Why did you pick one Like, yeah, this keeps it nice liberal.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, very wise of you, Joe. I know I'm going to have some not too pleased friends that will be annoyed that I picked him over them properly. But tough shit. So Joe, we're obviously you're gonna be stranded with Ricky, what would you and Ricky be snacking on

Joe Pearson :

our snack and I thought of Ricky likes this I don't actually know him on a personal level again. I'm a big foodie person's told me quite a while took me more than I'd care to admit. For my snack, I'm going to go for some serene, low,

Unknown Speaker :

serene, low, just the plain one. Now

Joe Pearson :

hear me out. There'll be a few people that are going what why on earth would you pay that? Now, this is a food item that I've liked my entire life, and I've never got sick of it. And I have it almost on a daily basis, right? Wow, my logic is, I'm never gonna get sick of it. It's kind of like a pudding, but you can also have it as a snack or for breakfast, or whatever you want. So it's quite an adaptable snack. If you just get a bit of chocolate, it's probably gonna matter. Huh, you're gonna get sick of it. But if you've got normal dairy milk, I don't about you, but I would get sick of that after a week off for sure. Yeah. Interesting. Do you want to know what my snack is? Gone? What's your snack? My snack is exactly the same as yours is the serene life.

Gordon Hall :

The banana one to be precise, I become obsessed an honour.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah. Literally, I'm a big fan. But my logic was I'd get sick of it.

Gordon Hall :

Right. I don't know what it is. But I've become obsessed with the little you know, you can get the five pack of the litter.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah.

Gordon Hall :

Literally yesterday I went into Sainsbury's. I bought five packs of five.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, I've been regularly picking up to three loads a week, honestly. I mean, a lot of serine. And yeah,

Gordon Hall :

I don't know what it is. It's mad that we both picked it but

Joe Pearson :

yeah. So is that what this is? All the people probably, I think 18 year old me would be we want to not be out. Yeah, although 80 year old me was actually eating serene so there you go. Hey, whoa. Now I also have a I don't want to make this a serene podcast because we're not actually sponsored However, if serene are listening, get involved. There is one thing that I do not like and I don't know if you tried it Gordon is one that comes in the green packaging the apple one. I've not tried it. I've been tempted to you know, I like apples. I like apple pie. Maybe I'd like an apple life, but it's not good. It's not good. It's very sour water with an apple based flavour is you cannot make it sour. It needs to be like a sweet kind of thing. Yeah, Golden Delicious kind of apple. This is just like a weird gooey sour apple. It has no place in a serene for me. Okay. That's really and people should probably be aware we have not discussed this before. Now. That's really weird. No, no.

Gordon Hall :

What would you mean we'll be then J.

Joe Pearson :

Again, this took me a while. I went with the same logic. Now. I'm going to go For a chicken Balti, okay complete with like pilau rice, but it's very light. It's got a lot of veggies in it. Okay, so it's got a bit of me and it's got a bit of peppers and lots of nutritious stuff. Now the logic is I've liked this food all my life and I'm continue to like it. It's nutritious. It's got a bit of everything. And I can also add a bit of spice in there.

Gordon Hall :

What will Ricky though because Ricky's vegan.

Joe Pearson :

Ricky's just gonna have to either pick the veggie out or start eating meat because we're on a desert island and

Unknown Speaker :

no one's can give you the brownie points on a desert island. Wow, that fair enough I'm sure that's the reason is vegan is for the brownie points, isn't

Joe Pearson :

it? Oh, yeah, but he's not going to affect actually yeah, cuz it's still affect because the chicken and still come in. Fuck. Let me answer that.

Gordon Hall :

Right. I'm sure Ricky Gervais is way mind you and sorry.

Joe Pearson :

maybe it'd be a good point for me and Ricky Talbot. have a chat. Yeah, veganism versus meats. And maybe I'll convert him or he'll come back. Maybe we'll meet in the middle and we'll both be vegetarian. Who knows maybe you're interested in what you're going to go for Gordon.

Gordon Hall :

So I went for this is it's a very specific meal from a restaurant I really like. So I'd hope that they'd be out I'd get it and packaged up for the plane meal. But it is from a restaurant called Mowgli, which is a chain of Indian street food restaurants. There's a couple of Manchester leads. Yeah. And they do dish on them and you could the vegan Chow. And this is an absolutely incredible meal. It's got absolutely everything that you need. It's basically a hollowed out roll. So it's a massive kind of bread roll that's been hollowed out. And then it's got sweet potato squash, loads of spices and herbs and chickpeas and all kinds of really good stuff. And it's also got stuff like mango, and kind of fruity things as well to add a bit of different textures and stuff like that. It is one of the most incredible things you can get on that menu. I have made it before I've got the recipe book and oh, it's just fantastic. Hundred percent recommend Mowgli vegan Chow.

Joe Pearson :

That's a very good shout. Yeah, I've got a bit of everything there. Yeah, roll so you could like sort of dish everything out. Use the roll.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, it's really nice because the the roll it's kind of like if you've ever had is it clam chowder? Yeah, yeah.

Unknown Speaker :

Where you've got like the bowl that's made of bread. The flavours seeps into the bread. It's like that was beautiful. Now maybe really hungry. Yeah. Thank you for that. Beautiful.

Joe Pearson :

So interesting. We both gone for Indian food. Yeah. I think the logic there is you get a bit of everything from Indian food. It's healthy, but in the same kind of way. It's not it's a richer flavour. Yeah, isn't it spice.

Gordon Hall :

Most of really nutritious kind of vegetables in there as well.

Joe Pearson :

A bit of everything. You're not gonna get bored of it. No, I usually not think about a roast dinner, but I thought I probably would get bored of it.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, I think the thing about a roast dinner is it's a special thing, isn't it? If you had roast dinner for every meal, it wouldn't be special anymore. But then very deep.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah. I've never heard someone speak so deeply and so passionately about a roast dinner. You're right, though. You're right. It's be like Turkey. If you had turkey every day, but I mean, let's be honest Turkey. Isn't that nice? It's a bit too bit dry. It's just like a ship chicken in my opinion. It's like a big ship chicken.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, I mean, I don't eat either turkeys or chickens as we know. But

Joe Pearson :

yeah, turkeys not tried it before they're right. I have in the past. Yeah. You know, you've heard the story. Yeah. Oh, well, yes. Yeah. It wasn't a turkey. No. We know that for sure.

Gordon Hall :

So Joe, let's go for some entertainment then. So we said that we'd pick three films or TV shows. So I think for the sake of kind of limiting it, we're not going to say all of the seasons of the TV show. We'll say maybe one season of a show.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Do what would you have your first TV show or movie? I've actually picked three films. I don't know why. I just couldn't think of a particular season of all the TV shows I want to go for. I did think about the office before if Ricky Jabez is there, he's probably not going to really want to re watch that with me to be honest. No.

Unknown Speaker :

Could be quite entertaining. probably seen a

Joe Pearson :

lot. A little bit. Yeah. My first film is going to be my favourite film of all time, which is Pulp Fiction. Okay, nice. Logic there. Again, I've never got sick of this film. I think I've watched it going on towards 4050 times now. It must be. I've washed out a lot. Can I make a confession drew You're going to tell me you've not watched it. We're going to end the podcast now.

Gordon Hall :

This is the end of the Liminal podcast. It's been great, guys. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. There won't be a next time favourite film, my favourite film and I'm so sorry job. I've never seen it.

Joe Pearson :

It is a masterpiece. In my opinion. It's actually quite a popular favourite though.

Gordon Hall :

I will say that I have heard lots of good things. He's one of those films though. That's on my list of films to watch. I've just never gotten around to watching it. Yeah, it's on Netflix.

Joe Pearson :

It's been on Netflix for years. Whether it's still on there or not. I don't know. It probably is. Sweet. Oh, yeah, it's a very good film, huh? Okay, and explain why I want that when I explained the other two as well because each of them all serve a different purpose. Okay, my second film is going to be Shrek two. Now don't laugh. Don't laugh. It's Shrek two is also a masterpiece. Fair enough because I'm going to need some light hearted comedy. I'm also going to need the kind of weird adult comedy that it throws in as well. And again, it's a really rewatchable film. You can watch that film as many times as you want. Yeah. And you will still laugh at all the jokes. It's still funny. You kind of forget what happens then. Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course.

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah. Did did we watch Shrek? Two recently? I think we did an ethics party. Yeah, it was it we I think it was strike one we watched?

Joe Pearson :

Yes, I believe Yeah. And I kept bringing up Shrek two. Better it was Yeah. But yeah, I'm bringing Shrek two along will be my final one. Now, I will have to explain this one, but it's a very good film. Regardless, I'm going to take the Truman Show. Okay, have you have you seen The Truman Show? You know, the premise of it? If not, I've heard of

Gordon Hall :

it. But I've not seen it. I think I know the premise though.

Joe Pearson :

I'm gonna spoil it. But it's quite old now. So if you've not watched it, tough Teto. Essentially, Jim Carrey plays the main character something true and I can't remember his name, but that might be his first name actually apart. Remember? But they basically make his life room in this kind of fantasy world and they record everything. And it's like a TV show that everyone watches around the world. And everyone in this life actors, right, okay. And it's him working this out during the film, and it's really, really well put together. And one of the things why it's a really good idea for film when they executed it perfectly. Yeah. Now my logic for bringing that is if I'm going to be on a desert island with Ricky Jabez eating chicken bowl to you know, half in the serene loaf, I'm going to want something a bit wacky, a bit weird. Yeah, just to kind of give me some kind of perspective on the situation actually goes you know what, at least I'm not on a show where everything's fake. And that's my life. Awesome. Okay, so they're my free Yeah, I've got a bit of everything. I've got a bit of crime. Yeah. From Pulp Fiction. I've got like a just a funny light height from from Shrek two. Then I've got one of the weirdest films in the world. The Truman Show. Yeah. That sounds like a good, good collection there. Yeah, I've got a bit of animation. So we all have a bit of animation. Of course, every now and again Yeah. What about you? Right?

Gordon Hall :

Yes. So the first one that I've got is a TV show. It's called The Good Place. I don't know whether you've heard of the good place, Joe.

Joe Pearson :

I feel like I have, but I feel like a lot of things are called similar names to what.

Gordon Hall :

So the good place if you haven't seen it before, is a show the IRS originally on NBC. And in the UK, it was broadcast on Netflix. It lasted for four seasons, finished earlier this year, and it stars Kristen Bell, Ted Danson and jameela, Jamil amongst others. And it is without spoiling it too much. Essentially, the premise is Kristen Bell's character, Elena shell strop wakes up, and she is in heaven, essentially in a good place. And she realises that she's not meant to be there that they've essentially gotten her mixed up with another element of shell strop. And it's her dealing with that and the situations that arise in that now that that's essentially the first episodes premise and then the third first season is kind of dealing with the fallout of that. But it is a show that has so many twists and turns. Every single episode ends on a cliffhanger is one of the funniest shows on TV and it's also one of the most human shows on TV. It's one of those kind of TV shows where one minute you're laughing your head off. next minute, you're on the verge of tears because something really emotional happened and it's

Unknown Speaker :

honestly a beautiful show.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, they're the best kind of one. Yeah, just to jump on the back of that. A lot of Ricky Gervais shows like that, particularly ones he's recently made, like after lie. Yeah, Eric. He makes his humour with really dark and sad themes. Hmm, very good. Yeah. So you're taking the first series of that? I'm taking the second season of that. Ah, yeah. What's the logic in that? So without

Gordon Hall :

spoiling too much, there's a big cliffhanger and a big reveal at the end of the first season, and essentially a big twist. And I feel like if I was constantly watching the first season and ended on The big twist, I'd get really frustrated. So I'd want to say after the first big twist where it kind of gets into it, because I've also seen the first season quite a few times because I've introduced people to the show up to the second season. Yes, you

Joe Pearson :

can kind of hide a knowledge of it. Yeah. So you, you got to the basis. The second season two show tends to be one of the better ones. Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

so that would be my first option. Then the second one is another TV show. It's a show that is very close to my heart. And that is ripples drag race.

Joe Pearson :

I had a wild inkling that you might get a bit of report in here.

Gordon Hall :

Yes. Yeah. So I've chosen season six. Have you seen any of drag race yourself Joe?

Joe Pearson :

Um, I'd be lying to say I've seen it but my girlfriend's had it on a lot in the background. So I've I've almost had a podcast listening experience to repulse drag race, so I'm pretty aware of what goes into Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

well, season six was the first season that I ever watched of it. And it's still probably my favourite. It's got some really incredible drag queens in it. Something that I've now gone on to see live and met in person. And it's it's just absolutely incredible. For those of you that don't know what ripples drag race is, it's essentially a TV show that's hosted by ripple, who's a drag queen, the most famous drag queen in the world. And it's like America's Next Top Model mixed with Britain's Got Talent in the most entertaining way. So they have to do challenges. They have to lip sync every single episode to fight for their place in the competition. There's all kinds of twists and turns, there's music challenges as acting challenges. There's a game that they play called the snatch game where they do impressions of celebrities, but it is one of the most incredible TV shows on TV right now. And yeah, season six in particular features my favourite drag queen, who's adore Delano and I've actually met a daughter liner and she called me a gorgeous motherfucker to my face and Yeah, I've not gotten over that yet. I'm still pretty kind of starstruck by that. I may have gotten quite drunk after the performance and tried to hit on her in the bar while she was in full drag.

Joe Pearson :

We've all been there. Yeah. Although we haven't.

Gordon Hall :

So that's my second choice. We've got the good place we've got drag race. And then my final option is it's actually a is I'm not sure whether you'll let me do this, but it was rather than just picking one film I've picked a series of films because I couldn't pick one film from that series. Okay, so it's the Marvel

Joe Pearson :

right now what you cannot have the Marvel infinity saga Is that Is it free films the Marvel infinity

Gordon Hall :

22 Films

Joe Pearson :

you're asking for 22 films I will go out on a limb on our Claire my opinion on all of them. I think they're all shit. I don't I don't follow Marvel. I don't like stupid Hero action stuff. And it's been lovely having you all on Liminal podcast. This is the last ever episode. Joe is now dead to me. Yeah, it's not my thing. I see why people like it. It's a bit like Star Wars. It's just not my thing. But in my eyes, it's often the same story over and over again. good versus bad. Bad almost always good comes back hero hero and then someone dies obviously. I mean, make everyone

Gordon Hall :

you could make that criticism of any film Joe?

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, I that's my particular pet fee. The action doesn't do much for me. So no, no, I don't get much from these films. But no, you're not having the whole Marvel saga. Do you want to pick one film from there? I'll give you that. It's just hard to read.

Gordon Hall :

interlink within each other. I think if I was to pick just one film, you might have you might have seen this film might not have. It's a superhero film, but it's a little bit different. It's not the kind of classic superhero film. It's a film released a couple of years ago. It's called a Logan And it's follows the story of Wolverine, the former x man, as he essentially kind of lives out the last days of his life. So it's following a comic book story called Old Man Logan. But it's kind of a post apocalyptic world. It's very dark film.

Unknown Speaker :

And it's it's incredible acting from Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman.

Joe Pearson :

Ice Yeah. I'm thinking like kind of joke arrives the newest Joker is very, very similar to

Gordon Hall :

that very similar although Joker's that was actually another one of my almost choices for this question. Yeah.

Joe Pearson :

Joe, good to

Unknown Speaker :

sit in a psychological Logan's a bit more violent. Okay, what more like a

Joe Pearson :

one joke, by the way is an absolute masterpiece. Yeah, I forget the name of the actor, but the guy who played Phoenix. Yeah. Incredible. I actually think it's on par if not better than Heath Ledger. So Gordon, I think it's time for music. Really? Yes, we've got film. and stuff but nothing's quite on par with a good bit music to get your day started on your desert island. Yeah, I mentioned you don't have a particularly mainstream interest in music but what have you Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

well, so for music for me is a bit of an interesting thing because for a large chunk of my life, I listened to pretty much exclusively Christian music. And so I don't have a lot of stuff to draw on from my kind of teenage years. But there is one album in particular that I listened to a lot when I was a teenager, because I used to play drums a lot. And this was an album that I actually learned pretty much most of the album on the drums and was in love with playing it. I mean, it's an album brought by Metallica called the Black Album or their self titled album.

Joe Pearson :

Metallica, Metallica.

Gordon Hall :

Yes, it's an absolutely incredible album. It came out in 1991 and it's a it's just a fantastic album. was their fifth album that they released? And it's got some great songs on it.

Joe Pearson :

Right and thinking they're still touring or Yeah, you know, the minute. They're just one of those bands that will just tore and tore into Oh, yeah. So

Gordon Hall :

yeah, Metallica, they're still releasing albums. I believe they've got another studio album in the works at the moment.

Joe Pearson :

Wow. Yeah. So, yes, that's

Gordon Hall :

my first choice s. So it's the Black Album by Metallica. My second choice is mainly just because you wouldn't let me have the film series. I've chosen the Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack. That if you've heard soundtrack of that film before, it is an incredible soundtrack. It's got some great bangers from kind of the 70s and 80s on it. And you know, some good old elton john and stuff like that.

Joe Pearson :

Really great. You get rid of everything. Yes.

Gordon Hall :

It's just a nice feel good album. Put it on to kind of cheer you up. Nice. Yeah. And then my final option is an album by an artist called Ganga, and Ganga Bandha, I became a fan of while I was a Christian, they were a Christian band, and they left Christianity kind of at the same time that I was. And so this album, one wildlife was written in a period where the band Ganga, we're going through a faith transition similar to the one that I went through. And so a lot of the songs on it are very personal to me. They mean a lot to me. But it's also a as an album that it's essentially written about the human life. So it's essentially songs that take you right from the moment of birth all the way through to death, and talking about different aspects of life. So it's a really, really cool album. I definitely recommend check what

Joe Pearson :

kind of music would they slot into music genre, oh,

Gordon Hall :

this is a this is a tough one. So they're very experimental. They used to do worship music, they don't really do that anymore. It's very interesting that they're very, very good musicians. Spit jazzy Sabir

Joe Pearson :

Is it very instrumental

Gordon Hall :

there. Yeah, very instrumental and playing with words and sounds and stuff like that. What are your options? Jay,

Joe Pearson :

you're my options. kind of follow the theme of a bit of everything. Okay, that's one I'm going to go for one of the first ever albums I owned, which was on a CD player with the headphones that just attached by the CD player. Yeah. All as one unit. And I bought the album American Idiot by Green Day, such released in 2000 album. Yes, yeah. Yeah, it's got a lot on it. And then a lot of the songs are very long. You've got heavy guitars. Yeah, I have a lot of memories of it. And because he was the only CD I own for a long time, I was listening to his album on repeat.

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah.

Joe Pearson :

So it's almost as if I find out every single beat of every single song. If I want to properly rock out is very singable as well. If you like singing

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, it's a great kind of pop punk. album, isn't it?

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, you get a bit of everything. Nice. So that's my first album. So it'll give me a bit of nostalgia give me some memories, but ultimately some good fucking music. Hmm. Secondly, it's another album I've had probably my teenage years. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, and the West.

Gordon Hall :

Okay, slightly different genre there. It's probably

Joe Pearson :

the best Kanye West album in my opinion. Again, a bit of everything on there loads of artists. A lot of individual songs I could keep playing on repeat as well. My last one just to round off my music. You might not notice band chasing status.

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah, I've heard of chasing status. You've heard a chase say yes.

Joe Pearson :

Okay, is there no more idols album. She's one of the earlier ones when think about 2008 nine, they released it and it's got better drum and bass, a bit of garriage some kind of reggae style beats, all kinds of music on there again, and it's also an album I see live a few times as well being performed Ah, memories. What am I good friends, Louis, we've got loads of memories of skanking out to all of these songs at 2am on a random warehouse in Bristol. Pretty cool. Amazing.

Gordon Hall :

Okay, so we've gone through some films, we've gone through some music. But I feel like on this island, you're gonna want some times where you have a bit of peace and quiet and you've got a bit more time to kind of just sit and maybe get some reading done. So if you've got any books that you'd want to have with you or ebooks that you'd want.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, the ebooks, my iPad. I've gone with a book I'm reading now. Okay, the logic is, it's a big big book. Silk Roads. Right. So yeah, I get a bit of histories. So if I want to deep for about human history and how we got to where we were, I'm sort of on the beach. I can have a read of this book. Hmm. My overdue books are both of the same series. Now. I thought about hiring. Potter ornament Harry Potter is there's so many of them. Yeah, where do I start? What do I pick? I just get annoyed. I'd be like, why didn't I bring this one? So I've gone with the first two Hunger Games. Okay, have you read? Have you read the two Hunger Games books? Not more than two? I've not seen the films. We'll pretend that I have. Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

I've seen the films. Yeah,

Joe Pearson :

yeah. Most people have seen the films, but that Harry Potter, the books are so much better, because you have to imagine this world. And the way that the author describes is so so good. My logic is, I'm going to want something that's going to take me away to another kind of world. And if I have both of them, gives me a bit of both because the first book is very much setting the scene and it's kind of what is the Hunger Games. And the second one is really almost about the politics and the Hunger Games can be interesting. Yeah, I get a bit of both. Nice. So you've got the two Hunger Games in the book. That was the book that you're reading at the moment called again, it's called the Silk Roads by Peter coupon move on reading now and a couple of hunger games books. Again, I could have picked other ones. But I just for given this scenario, I think these are probably best for me. What about you?

Gordon Hall :

So I've tried to choose a broad selection of books. So the first book that I've chosen is by an artist that I know called Charlie Massey. And it's called the boy, the mole, the Fox and the horse.

Joe Pearson :

Okay, I'm thinking like a kid's book, but I'm way off, I'm sure.

Gordon Hall :

So it could be described as a kid's book. It is a picture book and a kind of a storybook. But the I'd say that is not something that is limited to kids so the kids would get a lot out of it and enjoy reading it. The message that the story tells is something that I think everyone could learn from. It's kind of a self help book in a way but it's deeper than that is telling a story first and foremost. But it's also got wisdom in there that can really encourage you and kind of change the way that you may be perceived different situations and stuff. But if you check out his Instagram at Charlie Maxi, that's Charlie ma ck s y, then you'll be able to see some of the stuff that he's done and kind of go from there.

Joe Pearson :

Have a look at this one.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, I definitely recommend is get an ebook version or you can get a proper hardback version as well. It's available on Amazon or in Waterstones and stuff like that.

Joe Pearson :

Oh, well, you're going for your second book. So then my second book

Gordon Hall :

is by Michael Ganga, who is the one half of Ganga, the band that I was talking about earlier. And he's written a book called this and the subtitle is becoming free. And it's kind of his take on Buddhist philosophy. It's about how to be present in reality and be essentially kind of how to be here now. So he he borrows some stuff from teachers like Ram Dass, and Richard Rohr. But he also uses kind of examples of his own life base is a really good book. Get on audiobook or hardback. And then my third book is The Lord of the Rings. I'd go for okay.

Joe Pearson :

Which Lord of the Rings to the Lord of the Rings is one book? Is it Oh shit. Yeah, it is fucking massive. Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

yeah. So the Lord of the Rings is one book split into technically six sections. And then those six sections were kind of grouped in twos for the film's but it is one whole narrative and one whole book.

Unknown Speaker :

So I'd pick that because I've never liked the end of it.

Joe Pearson :

Pretty sure I borrowed it from someone Yeah. And at the same problem, it's just one of those you read loads and you barely even touched?

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah, 2030 pages is a very deadly note

Joe Pearson :

as well. Yeah, exactly. A bit like the Hunger Games and Harry Potter. You're in this mystical world. Yeah. A lot of descriptive stuff to explain the scenes and stuff you're in If you're in the mood for it, you will get lost in the Hawks TV show on Netflix where you just keep rolling and turning the page. Yeah.

Gordon Hall :

So yeah, I think that would be my kind of fiction option because it's it's got a lot in there and I've never gotten to the end of it. So,

Joe Pearson :

yeah, it's pretty cool, huh? We have two things left Gordon on our itinerary. Excited you like to name your podcast first, or would you like to talk about your luxury specialism? Let's go

Gordon Hall :

for podcasts. Let's save the luxury special item right for the end. Just to amp up the suspense for the way

Joe Pearson :

we think we should do this. You get their whole catalogue of podcasts that have been released to that date. I think that's fair.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah. If you're subscribed, you get all of the episodes up until the date that you get stranded and then after that you won't get any new episodes because, unfortunately, 5g doesn't stretch to this desert island. My first podcast that I choose would The litigious podcast,

Joe Pearson :

litigious, you want to smell that format? So it's LITURG by St. s. And what the facts is it mean?

Gordon Hall :

So the litigious podcast, it's bit of a running theme here you might recognise. It's hosted by Michael Ganga and a guy called science Mike, who's the author of the book that I'm reading at the moment. And this podcast, basically a podcast that discusses different facets of life through the lenses of science, art and faith. So they've done episodes on Christianity, they've done episodes on different personality typing things like the enneagram. But they've also done episodes on things like Black Lives Matter and racism in America, homosexuality, LGBTQ issues, and it's a podcast that's formed an amazing community around it as well, where there's like Facebook groups and different discussion groups and people around the world and I've met a lot of people through it as well. So it's

Unknown Speaker :

a great podcast.

Gordon Hall :

So I think number two, the number two would be you made it weird from Pete Holmes, which is a comedy podcast hosted by Pete Holmes, who is the star of crashing from which is a show on HBO. But he's also featured on things like Conan and stuff like that. But it's essentially a similar to Joe Rogan. It's long form podcasts, usually about two, three hours long, where he interviews a guest. And he talks about all kinds of things with those guests, beer, religion, our music, drugs, all kinds of stuff. But he really manages to keep your attention for the whole thing. It's really good.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, I actually listened to a few after you recommended it video can't remember who he had on but he had a very interesting I think it was a sky involved in some kind of science can't remember it might have been biology. Now they're really good. chat. Yeah, funny as well, really? Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

yeah, he's a really funny guy. And the thing I love about it as well with his particular podcast is that the ads that he does are all products that he actually uses and endorses himself. It's not that this company is asked him to advertise their product. It's things that he uses in his day to day life. And so I really kind of trust his recommendation on that as well.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Oh, I'm podcasting. The friends around. My final

Gordon Hall :

podcast is a podcast called getting curious by a guy called Jonathan Van Ness. I don't know if you've heard of Jonathan Van Ness. Joe, you might have done. So Jonathan Van Ness is the grooming specialist on query, the Netflix show. You might have heard that Yeah, yeah. So you must know Jonathan, then. I don't

Unknown Speaker :

understand. He's the guy we

Gordon Hall :

did. Okay, I watched it. I definitely recommend watching query. It's an amazing show. I should have picked it as one of my TV shows. But his podcast is about 45 minutes long and he just has a conversation with someone. And every single episode he basically asked that person a question and kind of goes into it. But he's had all kinds of people on from former presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren, all the way through to Tom Daley, the diver jameela, Jamil Reese Witherspoon and all kinds of people just kind of really getting to the heart of what is important to those people. So yeah, that my three podcasts. What about you, Joe?

Joe Pearson :

Well, you mentioned him already. I'm going to go Joe Rogan. I thought he would. Not only is he the podcast King, because he's done this for I think over 11 years now. They're really long and he has had every Tom Dick and Harry on his show. Yeah, I've just watched one with Brian Cox, which just blew my mind and he's talking about particle theory and really advanced physics, but he explains it in such a good a good way, ya know, have a place. But uh, you've done that then, Andre. Rogan show cuz Joe Rogan is he is the master of just sitting there and listening, right? He understands that the person who's got on is the master in their field, or they're very well informed. So he'll just sit there and ask the audience style questions. Yeah, that we're all thinking. And he's mastered it interesting. Actually, he's just signed a deal to move to Spotify, as he do his podcasts exclusively on there, including his video podcast, which is always put on YouTube. Hmm. Interesting. So yeah, it's a really big move, and they must have paid him 10s of millions, I would have guessed. Yeah. Because, especially at the minute, I'm sure his YouTube videos are getting a lot of hits. Yeah, listen to them during these kind of times. So I'm gonna get to him. And I say he's got I think he's on almost 2000 episodes Now, each of which are at least two to three hours long. Yeah. Amazing. And you've also got different formats. There's some where he'll smoke weed with some random comedian and they'll just have the funniest Converse. Yeah, I've had in a long time and then you'll get the super serious side where it's a historian who will look at this certain time. So you've got a bit of everything. So I'm gonna go with him first now, quite an obvious choice. And I think if Yeah, people would go with that, in this scenario. The next one links to my person, which is Ricky Jabez. Okay, go for the x FM years, which is like a collection of wreckage of A's. Karl Pilkington, who we all know and love, Stephen Merchant, and is them on their x FM show. And let's just say they couldn't probably add some of the stuff that they add the time now. Yeah. Oh, my God. Is it funny? It's Karl Pilkington, at his absolute peak in my opinion, other than an idiot abroad, which obviously is amazing, but SFM is just off the cuff. Nice. I love to listen with Ricky G. I'll go with him and it would certainly spark a few conversations with my last one is one that I Listen to I think about last year, I was called my dad wrote a porno might have seen it on the podcast charts around. I've heard

Gordon Hall :

a lot about this podcast. A lot of people have recommended it to me.

Joe Pearson :

It's one of those once you start it by God you finish it. It's so funny. It is literally what it is. Yeah, this guy's dad. I can't remember his name, but his dad has wrote a porno. It's the cheesiest funniest pornographic, like story you've ever heard. Yeah, like, and they just break it down every episode they break it down and sometimes they bring the dad on so you can explain why he use certain words. It's just so so funny. They're on Season Five of it. Season The Dodgers consistently writing these pornos? Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

so he the dad is now writing the pornos for the podcast. Basically. I see him

Joe Pearson :

essentially at this point. Yeah, but it started out with. He told his son that he wrote a porno. Why would you tell yourself if it started Why? Why would you have that confidence? I've never had a conversation with my dad about anything like that. Have you? With your dad? I know. I know. You have your dad. But I've also had with my dad. I mean, the people are weird. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So the premise of that they just read a chapter every, every episode. And it's just so so funny. It's a kind of podcast where you just find yourself laughing and really awkward situations like you're on a bus, for example. And he's just laughing like a maniac. And you can't hold it in. Yeah.

Gordon Hall :

Much like people listening to this podcast, I'm sure.

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah.

Joe Pearson :

So they're my podcast. So last but not least, Gordon, this is the most important thing you're going to take with you. Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

what is your luxury item? So I thought long and hard about this. There was a number of things that I considered before I chose this object. I thought about maybe bring some more food, thought about maybe some other form of entertainment, maybe an extra movie, maybe Extra book but I thought now I'm going to choose something that I'm not going to doesn't fall into any of the other categories. And I thought I'd choose something that I'd be able to enjoy on the island but would also feel a little bit authentic as if kind of I was living out my purpose on the island, I guess. So I decided to go for my bongos. Now I've got these bongos in Morocco, and the first time that actually played them was around a campfire in the Sahara Desert. So it was quite a similar kind of setting to a desert island. So I think that would be quite a nice thing to have a nice pair of bongos that we can have an enjoy around the campfire, and just kind of have some nice, tribal kind of beats going

Joe Pearson :

while we're enjoying. Are you in America?

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, while we're enjoying us serene,

Joe Pearson :

you and Emma can have a Bongo each Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

we can have a Bongo each and we can enjoy our toasted submarines on the bonfire.

Joe Pearson :

My dissimilar mind is a musical instrument. Now I'm gonna bring it for me, but I'm gonna bring it mainly for Ricky. I'm gonna bring him a guitar.

Gordon Hall :

David Brent on the road.

Joe Pearson :

There we go. So he can do David Brent impressions, I can learn those impressions. He could also teach me guitar. Eventually one of us could hit each other over the head with it. If it gets to that point. There's a lot of uses

Unknown Speaker :

for this guitar. Amazing. Sweet. So I would say you can have

Gordon Hall :

quite a musical time then on our islands.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, by the end of it. I would know every single chord from the Green Day album, American Idiot. Yeah, I mean, Ricky can serine in hand, blare them out. All the fish here. Beautiful.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, me and Emma will just be singing Kumbaya, because that's probably the only song that you can play along to on the bongos without any other insurance. So a lot of Kumbaya around the bonfire. I think.

Joe Pearson :

I'm sure you can make some pizza. Yeah. That was our take on Desert Island Discs, which is very, very fun. If anyone wants to play along and send it over to us what they would have took with them, by all means dm us on Instagram or send us a little email via our website. We are going to finish off with good news as we always do. Now, this is courtesy of Gordon Hall again. Yeah, he got for us.

Gordon Hall :

So Joe, this is a bit of an interactive one. It's something that I discovered last night and I thought it was so cool. I thought I'd share it with you. So Joe, if you get your phone and type in the word,

Unknown Speaker :

goat, followed by the word animal, so goats animal goats animal, yeah. Okay.

Gordon Hall :

And then if you scroll down, you should see the option to meet a life size go up close.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, view in 3d. Yeah. So if you tap that, it's just loading. That's all right. like God allows you to

Gordon Hall :

hurt a goat. In the room with you, and interact with it through your phone. And this works not just for goats, it works for cats. It works for pugs. It works for turtles, alligators, there's loads of animals that you can do this with. And I expect they're going to be bringing more and more out, but I just thought it was really cool. It's just a way of like putting an animal in the room with you.

Joe Pearson :

I was just very, very fun. There's now a go in the middle of my room. Yeah, I don't know what to do with it.

Gordon Hall :

So yeah, that's that. That's just a little thing that I found yesterday, and I thought it was really cool. I had some fun with it. I spent about half an hour playing around with different animals last night, putting an alligator in my bed and stuff like that. I thought it's quite fun. alligators are really big. Just so you know. Yeah. Did you fit it in your bed? It didn't know tail was hanging off the end.

Joe Pearson :

It's a bit like me in a single bed actually. Yeah. Interesting story. When I first went to Holden University, they put out a little flyer that said if you are over six foot three And I was six foot four at the time. You may request a longer bed as our bed will not fit you. So wow me in this really tall German boy who was six foot seven I think he was he was really big Swan down to reception and requested our bigger beds and we've got them delivered the next day.

Gordon Hall :

Amazing how much bigger was it?

Joe Pearson :

It was like a seven foot single bed, which was really weird. It was such a long thing. I did. Yeah, they would have just gone well, let's just get a bit double because if he's tall, he may also be quite wide as well, which I was at a time. But no digit brought me a really long, long bed.

Gordon Hall :

Oh, interesting. So that was the good news for this week. I think that's all we've got time for today. Am I right? j

Joe Pearson :

i believe we're all wrapped up.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, bask ourselves in the sun. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for listening again. We'll see you next week for another episode of Liminal podcast. goodbye from me

Joe Pearson :

and bye for me, Tara So massive thank you to everyone listening once again. We're nearing 200 subscribers which is really caught me and Gordon off guard massive thank you to Harry with the music she's still soundtrack in these episodes. Haley's fantastic logo which is standing the test of time in front of you now on layer with all the fantastic behind the scenes work. See you next week.