Liminal Podcast

Isolation

April 20, 2020 Gordon Hall and Joe Pearson Season 1 Episode 1
Liminal Podcast
Isolation
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Liminal Podcast
Isolation
Apr 20, 2020 Season 1 Episode 1
Gordon Hall and Joe Pearson

Joe and Gordon catch up about how they’re both dealing with living in lockdown during the Covid-19 pandemic.

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Check out this episode on YouTube!
Nike Run Club 
Houseparty
Cities Skyline
Cities Skyline YouTube Series
Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Mubi
Netflix Party
The Platform
Disney Plus

Liminal Podcast is about dealing with change, be that through humour, self-care, science, or spirituality. Join Joe and Gordon as they laugh and ponder, as well as speak to experts and friends, trying to figure out how to deal with life when the rug has been pulled from under your feet.

We’d love to hear from you! If you want to get in touch click here.

Liminal Podcast couldn’t happen without the support of our team, as always massive thank you to Harry for writing the theme music, Haley for creating our logo and Leah for everything she does behind the scenes. Thank you to everyone who rates and reviews the show, we really appreciate it.

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Joe and Gordon catch up about how they’re both dealing with living in lockdown during the Covid-19 pandemic.

Show Notes

Check out this episode on YouTube!
Nike Run Club 
Houseparty
Cities Skyline
Cities Skyline YouTube Series
Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Mubi
Netflix Party
The Platform
Disney Plus

Liminal Podcast is about dealing with change, be that through humour, self-care, science, or spirituality. Join Joe and Gordon as they laugh and ponder, as well as speak to experts and friends, trying to figure out how to deal with life when the rug has been pulled from under your feet.

We’d love to hear from you! If you want to get in touch click here.

Liminal Podcast couldn’t happen without the support of our team, as always massive thank you to Harry for writing the theme music, Haley for creating our logo and Leah for everything she does behind the scenes. Thank you to everyone who rates and reviews the show, we really appreciate it.

Subscribe to Liminal Podcast

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YouTube
Spotify
Stitcher

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Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/theliminalpod)

Gordon Hall :

Hello, and welcome to the very first episode of liminal podcast. My name is Gordon.

Joe Pearson :

My name is Joe. And this is the very first podcast. Are you excited, Gordon?

Gordon Hall :

I am very excited. The people at home cannot see I have got the biggest smile on my face. I'm so excited that we finally got round to doing this. I don't know about you, Joe. But I've been wanting to start a podcast probably since I first started listening to podcasts. And it's only gotten taken a global pandemic to drive me insane enough to actually start one. I think it's a similar story for you

Joe Pearson :

pretty much. We kind of just went "d'ya wanna start a podcast?" "Yeah, why not?" Three weeks into lockdown and here we are first episode.

Gordon Hall :

Yes, indeed. Yes. So Joe, tell us a little bit about yourself though. What was your story?

Joe Pearson :

Some quick facts 23 I'm not approaching 30 as you put on our website might be the receding hairline. Maybe there's giving that away anything else? No, but I'm from Leicester originally, if anyone knows that, that is in the Midlands. So the kind of chavvy English accent comes from, but I live in Manchester like yourself.

Gordon Hall :

Yes. So I live in Manchester as well, although I'm originally from just outside London little place called Bromley. Yeah, I moved to Manchester about four years ago. Now. I'm 28 years old. So I'm a little bit older, a little bit wiser than yourself. Joe.

Joe Pearson :

But yeah, you don't really care about us. So this is the first episode. It's going to go into isolation. We actually recorded a podcast a week ago. We seem to lock down. We're gonna play that but before that I was played a little trick on by Gordon.

Gordon Hall :

Yes, indeed. If you follow us on tik tok, you'll have already seen the hilarious clip but for those of you that haven't, and for those of you that have here's a behind the scenes look at the recording of that TikTok. And then we'll go into the conversation that we had a couple of weeks ago So yeah, I thought it would be fun for us to record a tiktokk this episode so Joe there should be a piece of paper in front of you. If you could turn around a piece of paper over and there should be a list of some words there is that right?

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, I can see that okay very nicely written out yeah

Gordon Hall :

So that this is actually something that I saw online if if we do this right this could go viral. We could be looking at you know, millions of people liking a video on tik tok. So this this has been

Joe Pearson :

Oh yeah. I don't know if we can make money from it but yeah, sure let's do it.

Gordon Hall :

Well, it's good we'll find out. But Joe if you could please read through the words that are on the sheet in front of you. But before we do what if you could say the word liminal.

Joe Pearson :

Okay. Liminal liminal, liminal say, liminal to, liminal asshole, liminal this, liminal got, liminal, I, liminal long, liminal how, liminal look

Gordon Hall :

okay great. Now if you can do it again but this time say liminal before and after each word.

Joe Pearson :

liminal liminal liminal, liminal say liminal, liminal to liminal, liminal asshole liminal, liminal this liminal, liminal got liminal, liminal I liminal, liminal long liminal, liminal how liminal, liminal look liminal.

Gordon Hall :

Fantastic and now if you could read through all of the words without saying them along before or after just from the bottom up

Joe Pearson :

Look how long I got this asshole to say lemon.

Gordon Hall :

Ah, there we go. Beautiful.

Joe Pearson :

We are on. This is podcast number one.

Gordon Hall :

We are Go go go.

Joe Pearson :

We are in lockdown about to hear from the queen of the UK.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah.

Joe Pearson :

On her her thoughts and feelings on the current situation.

Gordon Hall :

"Oh hello."

Joe Pearson :

What she has to say many of us don't really care, but I'm sure there'd be a lot of old biddies on the edge of their seats.

Gordon Hall :

I'm sure. Yeah, I think from what I've read, she's offering a message of hope. And it's something that she's only ever done twice - no, sorry three times in history once was just after her mother had died once was just after Diana had died, or just right before Diana's funeral, and the other one was in 1991, during the Gulf War, so the fact that she's giving a speech kind of shows how big this situation is, and I think certainly for me three four weeks ago, it wasn't this big it was a problem that was far off in the distance it didn't seem that important. It didn't seem that relevant to me. I knew that Okay, yeah, we we need to wash our hands avoid social contact by more use that as a way to kind of because I quite like my personal space anyway. So for me that was more of Oh yeah. Cool. Like you need to step away from me type of thing rather than doing it for the social distancing reasons, but I think since the announcement of the lockdown the severity and the hugeness of the situation has certainly started to set in for me, but I don't know about you.

Joe Pearson :

I mean, we're probably what about two weeks into the official lockdown?

Gordon Hall :

Yeah

Joe Pearson :

we've been locked down a little bit later - a little bit earlier. Sorry. Due to our work.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah

Joe Pearson :

For a lot of people this is probably getting really real now if you see the television.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah.

Joe Pearson :

Normally like a World War, you'd see something so significant, like this really.

Gordon Hall :

It's crazy.

Joe Pearson :

It changes every day. That's the weirdest thing that I don't think any of us, probably most of us in the UK in particular have ever lived through anything like this. Where every single day, there's a new message out there might be some new rules I might be whatever. It's pretty, pretty strange, actually. Yeah, weird.

Gordon Hall :

It almost feels like for me that we've been shifting gears in terms of the the severity and the scale of what's going on. And you know, two or three weeks ago didn't feel that bad. And every single time the goalposts had been shifted. I thought, Oh, I can't get any worse than this. And then lo and behold, it does. And you know, at the moment while we're recording this, the government have said that they may have to ban outdoor exercise. They said that literally a couple of hours ago.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, I seen a video. Probably a lot of people probably seen this last couple of days, people in Richmond park in London. And okay, you'd have no idea there's a global pandemic going on. If you should watch this anytime. There's literally people having barbecues. Clearly people didn't know each other, just like within a minute or so of each other. Just having a chat. Yeah, it's things like that, which will cause extreme lockdown, like we've seen in Italy and Spain and places like that.

Gordon Hall :

And that's, that's what I'm really afraid of, I think, you know, the, for me, certainly one of the things that's and I'll probably get into this later. I'm in the show, but one of the things that's really helped me is going out for a run. My kind of hour of allotted exercise that I'm allowed out of the house has become a lifeline for me in many ways, just being able to go out, be moving, be active and be in nature is fantastic for my physical health, but also for my mental health as well. So if I didn't have that, I think I would really struggle to keep going in the way that I have.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I mean, the message now is you can go out for an hour or two a day in a local park. That is about it. Pretty exercise.

Gordon Hall :

Absolutely. I think the the important thing is you know, to stay local don't unnecessarily travel to a beauty spot. If you've got just as much greenery in a park a five minute walk from you, you know, this isn't the time to be making the most out of the British countryside. It's time to stay home and stay safe. Go outside if necessary, and exercise is Something that isn't necessity, and is something that I think people don't quite realise the privilege that we've got, like you said, with countries like Spain and Italy.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, for a lot of people they probably wouldn't use this time, or maybe they didn't have time in their everyday lives. And so, maybe use it. And if someone like myself, getting into the gym a little bit just before this kind of kicked off, yeah, I've been previously in probably years ago. I was actually getting into it quite a lot. for about a week when we first looked down because we were a bit early. I was going to the gym, but now Yeah, I've been going out. I've been walking. I've been running a little bit. Yeah, not very far, but I've been running that's fine. efficiently. Yeah, but what's tells me I have run for a little while. Great. And it's actually way better. Yeah, the gym is a place where there's a lot of people looking at each other. And it's, yeah, it's not it can be quite uncomfortable. And

Gordon Hall :

yeah, it does, like clinical,

Joe Pearson :

a little bit. I mean, yeah, I quite like that in a way in the fact that I get What I know I need to work? Yeah, cuz people are gonna be looking at me What the hell is this guy doing? You sat on the machine for 30 minutes until about 10 reps. So what on earth is going on? Yeah. Have you got any advice? And how have you been coping with the snake today?

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, I mean, for me, I've tried to go running at least three or four times a week. And that's been fantastic for my mental health and kind of my sanity, I guess. I've been using the night run app, which is available on like iPhone, Android, apple, watch, Garmin, all kinds of devices. And it basically has a bunch of different things that really helped me to kind of focus on my running to motivate me to run more. And to kind of keep going. Some of them like they've got guided runs, where you have a coach that you're just listening to giving you tips about your form about your pace, different guided runs have different goals. So one might be our run. There's a few that they Do with the headspace team mindful one so I did a mindful metres run today How can you be mindful? Is it is it is it like a podcast or whether someone talking you through it or

Joe Pearson :

essentially yeah

Gordon Hall :

so they are talking about ways that running is help their mental health and give you tips on how to kind of tune in to the steps that you're taking the environment that you're in while you're doing this run see the world kind of passing you by and that kind of stuff really getting into your body feeling you know the stress that might be in your body and consciously releasing that it's really helpful Yeah, I mean I never really run before as I said I've been in the gym but

Joe Pearson :

it's a lot different experience think I use a house for five k I'm not used to nylon for buy shoes probably similar kind of thing. Yeah, it's not myself who absolutely slowly getting into it. This last thing Yeah, reading I've had to ask people Am I I feel like I'm about to die every 10 seconds. Maybe related fitness. I'm not really sure. Certainly things you can pick up.

Gordon Hall :

I think that you I've been really good with the run club app, but also they've got a Nike training club app, which is kind of home workouts. And a lot of it was free anyway, but a lot of the stuff that was originally behind a paywall is now not behind a paywall at all. So there's hundreds of workouts that you can do the guided runs, like I said, each of those apps also has a like an inbuilt virtual coach, where you answer kind of a few questions about your fitness level and about how often you can be active in a week, how long you can be active for, and it gives you a personalised training plan that's customizable, so you can kind of move days around if they don't fit with your schedule. But that's definitely been helpful for me in giving myself kind of goals to work towards whether that's when I was first getting into running, or whether that's, you know, I've been working towards a half marathon that was supposed to be in May, but it's now been moved to October. So yeah,

Joe Pearson :

yeah, I want to complain. It's quite Yeah, it's probably a lot of people have got holidays and stuff and you want to be angry. But you just can't be like yeah, I guess it's not happening.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, but like you said make the most of it pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, I mean today on my run, I was running around Media City. And I just happened to run through the blue pizza garden. I didn't realise it at first but then I saw the signs saying this is the blue pizza garden. Can you can you actually go in as in through the sets so it was to the blue pizza garden is just behind media cities tram stop. What kind of opposite the lot where blue pizza is filmed. So okay, it's a public garden. As far as I know, if I did break in, and I'm publicly admitting it on the internet. Come arrest me. I don't care. I mean, I've been in the boot pizza garden. It's childhood. This is a tree with like,

Joe Pearson :

tortoises and like all these weird old animals that they introduced on the show and stuff, right. So

Gordon Hall :

they those animals weren't there. Just now I've seen the animals bath for the bits that they're filming and then take them off to somewhere safe because I mean it's a very public space it's right by them yeah,

Joe Pearson :

makes sense. Yeah Really it's probably a kid in me that was watching it to be like oh my

Unknown Speaker :

god and it's completely natural exactly what happened but I'm pretty sure the

Gordon Hall :

things like the time capsule that they'd buried in there and stuff like that would still be there. It was cool. I got to run around the blue pizza garden and around the Coronation Street so when I say around the Coronation Street set, I mean again, the world

Joe Pearson :

kind of literally around the set the proper xe just trying to lean over there. Yes,

Gordon Hall :

well, I would have been if they were actually filming but honestly, like a lot of TV shows sadly. they've stopped filming and I believe they've reduced their schedule down as well. EastEnders certainly have that was a sad day for me when they don't stop, but this virus is definitely changing our lives in ways that I wouldn't have expected something like this to you know, you wouldn't think the TV shows would be stopped companies would be closing down. Yeah, High Street is dead hot night, the government is bailing people out in terms of, you know, paying 80% of their wages, telling people to stay at home. This is crazy times to be alive. And it's

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, and it's there's a lot of depressing stuff. But yeah, as we're probably going to talk about a lot in this, there's a lot of things you can you can use, and actually a lot of personal growth you can do, although rule in a pretty horrible situation. You've got a massive opportunity. You've got we've probably most of us have got at least two or three months. Yeah. Hopefully not extra. I mean, in total, but who knows really at this point. I bet. Yeah. Who knows? It's on your day today, which Yeah, a lot of us would have absolutely dreamed of a month or two ago. Yeah. So as we've already mentioned in the introduction, we've got a load of apps. We've got some TV recommendations. And a couple of things we're going to go into. Yeah, what you want what you want. Not everyone's gonna run by myself. I for many years, I looked at my past history and I was like, I don't know what you're doing it myself and I get Yeah, but now I'm actually getting a little bit into it. Yeah, there's probably a lot of people who know me are thinking you Elia. But hey, oh,

Gordon Hall :

I mean, I definitely recommend keeping active in any way. And using apps like the ones that are community driven, where you can follow people and have your friends spur you on, as well as surprisingly supportive and grey, I hated gym class at school, and was always kind of the bottom of the the league and all of that kind of stuff. But then when I started running, I joined Strava and I followed a bunch of kind of friends and family and stuff. And now every time I go for a run, I get like, on the rondon people telling me well down and stuff like that, and

Joe Pearson :

yeah, and it's a bit silly, what it has But yeah, probably something maybe subconsciously that is a little bit of pride and whatever and a bit yeah mission that you actually did what you just did.

Gordon Hall :

Absolutely. And I think it's it's the little victories you know, it's during this crisis, there's not a kind of one thing that you can do that's gonna make everything better. But there's lots of little things that you can do to boost your day. And I think that's what we're trying to suggest. In today's episode. We just want to give you a few things that have worked for us and brightened our days a little bit. During this weird, unprecedented timer. I've got an analogy for you. Oh, we should all think of ourselves as a sim characters.

Joe Pearson :

So we'll say when characters sim character was played the Sims or as awareness in other senses, I can't help you. I'm not gonna explain what the Sims is. But we will get a simulation game. We're not going to expand the sim. Nothing for sins now. But we will get randomised. But now is your opportunity to actually Don't send your sim for free hours or you go and do that. So let's see. You didn't have three hours today to learn about you by I've had a couple of days I was locked down and I feel really guilty at the end of the day. I could have done quite a lot today. I could have done you know, even a couple of hours of productivity really gets you your head in a good space. Oh, yeah. And the knock on effects. Yeah, yeah, I mean for a lot of people it's gonna be different wins for different people for someone like yourself Yeah. Okay run is pretty low level for where you are right now. But yeah, someone like myself. That's massive if I get if I hit that, the Charlottesville everyone Yeah, I'm gonna go out Thursday at eight o'clock, whatever was clapping and telling them I'm just gonna run? Absolutely. And I think nearly, you know, whatever. Productivity looks like for you, whatever.

Gordon Hall :

Just staying sane looks like for you right now. is absolutely what you should be doing. And I'd, I don't want people to be listening to this and thinking, oh, they're saying I need to go for a run. If I've not gone for a run every day, then I've not used my isolation. Well, and that's not what I'm saying at all. All I'm saying is that running has helped me. And it might help you. But equally yoga might help you or playing Call of Duty might help you or writing music or whatever it is. Yeah, it's a good time to try things like that. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker :

absolutely. So

Joe Pearson :

it's a good time to take. They take time to actually work out how much you do it to start with, and then obviously, it's the effort and the time to actually get started as Yeah, you know, you can pick up 15 hobbies during this isolation, drop every single one of them if you want to, at least you'll know. Absolutely gain understanding really. I mean, yeah, I mean, a lot of people are gonna be isolated in different ways right now. 1am I've had a lot of hours house party, and I actually found it my so I've seen

Unknown Speaker :

how hostile

Joe Pearson :

I know you're involved in it.

Unknown Speaker :

Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

house party is where it's at. Actually, last night, I was in a house party room with a couple of friends. One of set friends was talking to us. And she was out on her balcony, showing us the view and we noticed the fire engine pull up outside her apartment. And live men start coming out talking to people in this building opposite her. And they're they, I'm imagining that they

Joe Pearson :

like the ladder that comes on the back of the fire engine. Am I not? Not? Not at this point? No, right. Okay.

Gordon Hall :

Basically, there was some construction work going on in the building next to where my friend lives or opposite where my friend lives. I was seeing it on about a sixth of my phone screen, because the way that house party works is that you it splits the screen into however many

Unknown Speaker :

zoom and like FaceTime. Yeah.

Gordon Hall :

Whereas in those other apps, you can usually zoom in on one person's video on this one, you cannot. So all I could see was this tiny little thumbnail. We had Haley my friend just explaining it to us. But essentially what transcended was the lots of people were leaving the building. Lots of people weren't leaving the building were kind of stood at their balconies trying to work out what the hell was going on. There was no smoke whatsoever. But they got a hose and they pulled it up through the scaffolding on maybe the sixth seventh floor. And then a load of water started coming out of the hose. So what we suspect happened was that there was some kind of flood or something that like a tonne of water gotten into the building needs to get out quickly. So they brought the fire department in but they closed off the street. There was very interest hundreds of people just kind of milling about been evacuated from this building. It was very strange. And we were watching it live on house party.

Joe Pearson :

explained Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like and what I imagine I don't know if you view a lot of people using this right now. You make an account, and then you can join a virtual house by essentially anyone. Yeah, he's in your contacts list,

Gordon Hall :

right? Yeah. So you have to add people, once you've added them, then you can jump in a room with them whenever they're online, so long as that rooms not locked. So, for example, last night, I was kind of chatting to Haley and a few others Hades mum joined in for a bit. My sister joined him for a bit, Adam had another friend who was in it, he joined him for a bit. So that was a bunch of people that would never have met outside of, you know, in the in the real world suddenly connected through this app from all corners of the world, because Haley's mom lives in Chicago. So it was quite a special thing. And I think it's quite interesting how communication is changing and adapting during this pandemic and a lot of the ways that it is changing I think are for the better, and I'd be interested to see whether they continue after this.

Joe Pearson :

Yes, pushing people more into the virtual world. Yeah, when they're ready, I think it's forcing. Probably a lot of middle aged people particularly live. Yeah. Never really use these things that happened to do if they want to. Yeah, absolutely actually finding one it's quite easy to it's pretty funny.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah. I think once necessity is there to use it once you have to do it, people realise how easy it is and the fear of Oh, I might do it wrong isn't quite there when it's the only way that you can contact your loved ones. I certainly found that I'm getting a lot more calls from my family on things like FaceTime and stuff like that. Whereas before I'd be the one facetiming them and like scheduling in a FaceTime at a certain time and be by the iPad. at four o'clock. I'm talking her through logging on to her on the phone to her at four o'clock so that we can see each other, that kind of thing. Whereas now she is just facetiming me all times of the day, but it's it's quite nice being able to be connected to my family in a way that I wasn't before. It's sad that it's taken a pandemic, for us to realise that we could have been disconnected that whole time.

Joe Pearson :

It often takes quite negative things to bring a lot of people together, unfortunately, yeah, it's sad that that's the way but a blessing in disguise is a lot of families close together a lot of friendship circles that might have been a little bit more distant. I know in a lot of my circles that's that's really like, it's played a massive part and everyone's Yeah, and then and we're above all the group chats are all popping up again. So

Unknown Speaker :

yeah.

Joe Pearson :

And there's lots of ways you can do it if you want not social there's all these apps though, go into the surface now. Yeah, particularly people that live in on their own which would be horrible. And this gets away the stigma as well where you don't have to just face on one person. It's got that kind of randomness and yeah, that kind of feel like like imagine going out football, your group of friends. You know, somebody someone turns up an ad someone says some half a and someone goes home, gives you that kind of style. social animal. Yeah, FaceTime again, forcing a conversation with one person.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, I think each of them has their place. But I mean, are there any other apps that you've been using to either communicate with people or to kind of help yourself through the isolation?

Joe Pearson :

I'm not a massive app guy. I'm not like okay he's kind of people that jumps on every single app that popped around yeah I'm quite into games okay on on an all night while all my life yeah a lot of games I've been recommended just before this one yes, city skyline. Okay, because I probably slept a little bit at least an hour probably every day. Well, it may sound unhealthy but it's not that not that cold. You just lock in on this. It's just mindless. Yeah. Again, quite simply as you make a city SimCity style okay. Yeah, I think like that kind of side of that but you do from the bottom up. I would highly recommend to anyone that's played like, think roller coaster type. In any of these kind of simulations Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

just hook you in you get to design and there's money involved we all have money. So what what kind of like is this a SimCity you kind of took you through different ages that you started as far as I remember Anyway, you started with older style power like coal power and stuff like that and then you progress to more renewable things and stuff like that

Joe Pearson :

kind of kind of essentially you just building your populations you start off with a motorway that connects okay and you need to build your city up and every time right people 2000 you get you unlock things okay, you might have a little hospital and then you get upgraded to a massive one and yeah,

Gordon Hall :

all sorts go watch on YouTube. whereabouts are you How was your city like at the moment? I'm quite

Joe Pearson :

bad in the fact that I like restarting quite a lot. Oh, yeah, that was played that game. You know what I'm talking about because the problem is cities is tribal. thick. Yeah, you designed this amazing city and everything was perfect and then you look at like your major roadways and there was just 15 lorries that are just not moving right and everything stopped. So it's a very frustrating, but my probably the biggest one Yeah, I've got one that's on like 20,000 people, okay, which doesn't sound a lot but I would certainly recommend a game it's not like I've made it sound really complicated. It's not once you kind of know what you're doing it's one of those games you get really into it and you can just watch a couple of YouTube videos and you are away pretty much I mean I'll link Yeah, I'll link the game was a couple of youtubers I've looked up and again, I've not spent hours watching videos. I've probably watched a couple of videos just to give me the basics and then I've gone from there. I'm quite big headed up games. I think I know it all, which I learned a very tough lesson on a couple of cities. Yeah, by the end of this I am going to have Manchester built exactly like one of those kind of Minecraft series where They just build like the earth like for like or something amazing. Yeah. So that city skyline is again very time consuming in a good way. And you can put your heart and soul into this game. Not that you can't do it most games but yeah, a lot of time. Yeah, well I myself

Gordon Hall :

playing a very similar game. It's on the Nintendo Switch I bought one especially for this. I don't know what this is I think games is I see adverts for everywhere yeah everyone is posting that they've got one now close the game you probably gonna talk about it is the one and only Animal Crossing New Horizons. For those of you who don't know what it is you basically start out on a desert island and in a tent with a couple of other villages and this kind of travel company that have kind of helping you to populate this island I guess. And then you kind of expand you build a house you build a shop, a museum, for all of the things fish that you catch you catch fish. you chop down trees from what I've seen, it's just little little characters just

Joe Pearson :

hitting things and like to sort of mess

Gordon Hall :

around you basically have this this island that you're landscaping and creating kind of your dream desert island, I guess so for mine, I've got loads of different fruit trees around. So I've got an orchard I've got an orange orchard orange wood thing. I don't know what the term is. Got an apple orchard, a penny orchard orchard. Some maybe. Yeah, I've got some berries. I've got coconuts. I've got peaches. I've got a Zen Meditation garden. Like a fountain and like little cushions that the characters can sit on a little camp stove and a camped. campfire. I've got hammocks with my face on. It's great

Joe Pearson :

and you can play Online, right, I see Yeah. clips and stuff of like 20 characters just robbing each other and running around. I mean, yeah,

Gordon Hall :

yeah, you can visit friends islands, they can visit yours. You can, like look at their museums and see all of the fish that they caught and stuff. It's very cute. It's very fun. Like city skylines. You can spend up to three hours digging up weeds and catching all of the bugs and all of that kind of stuff. But you end up with a really nice Island. It's pretty cool. I mean, both

Joe Pearson :

games are quite consumable, and the fact that they're not hard to play. No, not the sounds in it, but you know, quite quite good for people that probably aren't us hardcore gamers. Calypso, you probably know about every game that exists anyway. Yeah, already. You're just good to go. Pretty much because there's games I could recommend, but I don't think people are gonna want to start taking on League of Legends. Quite nerdy as well. I'll be honest with you. I mean, I've never played it personally. Don't start. It's one of those games. Okay started, but like lawn Walker, you don't play like that, but it's right. Very. You need to be in the scene if that makes sense. Okay, I mean, I am a legend, so I thought I will move swiftly on. Oh, okay, fair

Gordon Hall :

enough. Wow. So next up, Joe is going to talk about movie, not his breasts. Don't get too excited. It's an app. That's about em. UBI What is that? Yeah.

Joe Pearson :

Not recommended by friend. Okay, essentially, this is an app that will correct some of the independent films and kind of obscure independent cinema films, all in a nice list for you on the first page and only got 1520 movies on there, which are pretty wacky kind of old school films. The kind of films you probably should be watching in the minute. You've probably been at half of Netflix already. just scrolling and scrolling past things you really watch. And these films available on things like Netflix and stuff like that, or they Some are okay, because a lot of them are independent. I think they sell the rights to an app like movies and then you watch it through there because you can subscribe to that starting spot for 99. And you get access to every film they've ever created and recommended on there.

Gordon Hall :

Are there are a lot of films that the they maybe get onto movie first and then move to things like Netflix thereafter, or?

Joe Pearson :

I'm not sure I think with licencing I think at the time they recommend it. Yeah, it's not on Netflix or whatever else. I imagine waiting, the licences move around and stuff. Yeah, you can always go back. Now. We all know that. Oh, I'm sure.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, but we're not. We're not endorsing anything like that.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, pretty much. I mean, one of those apps download if you're in the mood for kind of wacky film, in the moving like, yeah, if anyone's watch parasite, which is incredible. It Establish What's that? Please go and watch it. Anyone who's considering that I imagine that probably moved it to be able to purchase it now, because they would have kept this film in the sun for a long time. Yeah, it's in Korean, but it's English subtitles, rock dubs, which I personally really don't like dogs know me in some ways there for some people, but I would much rather read it and have the original language. Yeah. For some reason that sits better with me. Yeah, way more enjoyable, that

Gordon Hall :

there was a another film that we watched the other night wasn't there. Just to explain, we've not been breaking the social distancing. We've been using an extension called Netflix Party, which you can get, I believe, for Google Chrome. And we've been using that so watch stuff together. But not together, if that makes sense. So it synchronises Yeah, absolutely. Essentially, but we use that to watch a really good is it a Spanish film leave so it was cool. On a Netflix one month ago when it was the platform Yeah, the

Joe Pearson :

platform. Yeah. I didn't love it. I kind of liked it was very wacky, but you did not love this.

Gordon Hall :

I didn't love it. But I'm glad I watched it. It was one of those films it was uncomfortable to watch. But it was also a very interesting examination of the human condition,

Joe Pearson :

which I enjoyed. It was just just to explain the movie without ruining it because as you can see all this on the trailer. Yeah, essentially they throw a load of humans into this massive like kind of tower

Gordon Hall :

but literally throw them just yeah, I think like a jail

Joe Pearson :

cell roots who's better there? And this platform goes from the top layer towards the bottom of a couple of hundred floors, and there's food on it. And that comes down on today. And then yeah, it's very, very wacky and yeah, very Netflix as well. I would say yeah, it's worth a watch. And again, which is Spanish put English subtitles on, because the dope just really doesn't work. takes all of the emotion away from it

Gordon Hall :

gets rid of all of the intonation of the I mean, Spanish is a beautiful language. I speak about three words of it, but from what I know, it's a lot more expressive sounds.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, I'm sure when people hear us speak English, they probably laugh a little bit. Yeah, like ridiculous. ality boring language. Yeah. Like German where she's blowing harsh sentences over again, pretty much. But yeah, but only movie get Netflix. Yeah, absolutely. You can watch along with other people. Yeah. Again, there's options to completely isolate yourself, but there's loads of ways you can integrate everything you want to do lots of people.

Gordon Hall :

Yeah, I think for me, staying connected with some former community has been so important. During this time, whether that's just you know, chatting to you guys on Netflix party or keeping in touch with my family on FaceTime, you Stuff like that. Yeah, just having that time where I can chat to my friends chat to my family and form new connections as well. It's been

Joe Pearson :

quite nice. I'm gonna guess that your next app is going to probably be linked to mine. I already know what it is. Everyone's probably heard a lot about it is it's a new plus service, not Yorkshire sheer broadband service. No

Gordon Hall :

worse. Disney plus, yeah, so I got Disney plus pretty much the day I think the day it came out. And I have watched it pretty much every day since it is incredible. There are pretty much all of the Disney films that you can think of all of the Pixar films you can think of. Almost all of the Marvel films you can think of from Spider Man, because Sony on them annoyingly, all of the Star Wars, all of the national geographic documentaries that you can think of add

Joe Pearson :

Wow, I didn't I didn't know that was on their eyes. Yeah, it's just gonna be like Aladdin, and not all

Gordon Hall :

classics. There's so much content on there. There's hundreds of TV shows hundreds of movies. But one thing that I've been watching quite a lot of is the Simpsons. It's got 30 seasons on there. Wow. And right from season one, and it is quite nostalgic to watch that. So obviously the animations

Joe Pearson :

look a lot different, right?

Gordon Hall :

Yeah. The animations different they made everything widescreen. When obviously the Simpsons was originally broadcast before widescreen was a thing. So they squashed the picture and gotten rid of the top of button which means that a lot of visual gags that made the Simpsons so funny when it first broadcast last because you're missing the top and bottom half of the screen, but that is something that Disney are working on fixing in the next few weeks.

Joe Pearson :

Rest assured yeah

Gordon Hall :

Rest assured ladies and che definitely

Joe Pearson :

brought Disney plus forward 100% I when they originally saying like kind of all this

Gordon Hall :

autumn time. I'm not sure As far as I say, coming soon, they said it was coming soon came out in America towards the end of last year, I think August last year, there was actually quite a lot of traction on social media that I saw calling for Disney to release it in the UK earlier than they were. Because I think locked down here about a week or a bit before Disney plus was launched. And that week was one of I don't know whether it was just because it was the first week of isolation, I'm still getting used to it, or whether it was the fact that I didn't have Disney plus, but all I know is as soon as I got Disney plus life got a lot better. Disney plus is definitely well worth the money. It's 599 a month or 5999 for 12 months. You can get it on anything with a screen, pretty much you can get this device on. So yeah, that was our conversation from a couple of weeks ago. And Joe I've got to make a little confession ever since we had that conversation about Disney Plus I've not stopped watching Disney plus since I'm on episode about Episode 400 of The Simpsons is very bad.

Joe Pearson :

Wow, yeah. That is pretty incredible. Which leads on to quite nicely what we're going to do next episode which is we're going to go into Tiger King arrival subscription service on Netflix. If you've not watched Tiger King, one, why haven't you watched it? And two, please go and watch. Yeah. Pretty incredible social media is taking it by storm. unison Carol Baskin everywhere, Joey because Arctic songs awful clothes. A lot of tigers. Yeah, we're going to go into that next episode. Go and watch it if you haven't already. Yeah, go and watch Tiger King. If you've not already. We're going to talk about everything's also been an extra episode released as well, where they do some post interviews. So we're going to that we're going to give you some extra snippets. We might play some audio clips, all sorts of stuff. Yeah,

Gordon Hall :

Tiger here. I'm really excited about that. But until then, Until then, if you want to continue the conversation, you can follow us on social media at the Liminal pod. And you can also send us any suggestions of things that you want us to talk about. Things that you want us to get Joe to do on Tick tock, and much, much more.

Joe Pearson :

Yeah, yeah. Give me Give me working. I'm bored. Isolated. Let's know how you're surviving as well. Yeah. So it is an interesting ways what things

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people been up to, indeed. So until then, it's been an absolute pleasure. And it's goodbye from me. You're back for me. We'll see you soon. Bye.

Gordon Hall :

And we just want to take this moment to thank a couple of people who without which, you wouldn't be listening to the podcast that you're listening to right now. There's just no doubt about it. first of which is Harry Corbett, the incredible composer who produced the music that you're listening to Right now, go check him out on Instagram at Harry dot Luna that's haitch A RR y

Joe Pearson :

dot L at you and AR.

Gordon Hall :

And massive thank you as well to Leah bull who has been a massive help producing the social media content and making sure that people know about this episode. So thank you so much for that. Thanks again for listening guys and we'll see you next week.